Police In Framington Ma withdraw from ICE Immigration Program meanwhile Luis Cervantes,illegal hispanic tries to murder girlfriend

mussolingotta love the black humor here; on the front page next to this article is one where an illegal “hispanic male” tried to kill his girlfriend,- Nice ,the police are cowards and siding with violent illegals, betraying their country.

MetroWest Daily News
Posted Oct 01, 2009 @ 09:13 Pm
 

 

FRAMINGHAM

The Police Department divorced itself from a federal deal Thursday that gave it access to federal criminal databases and granted two officers the power to act as immigration officials.

The department pulled out of the agreement after Immigration and Custom Enforcement pushed to expand Framingham’s immigration enforcement role.

The federal government wanted to change the agreement by requiring local police to help issue immigration detainers and assist in deportations.

Police say that could alienate an already reticent immigrant community.

“We want them to report crimes,” said Police Chief Steven Carl. “We want them to call us when they’re victims. We don’t want them to be afraid of us. If we participated in the full (program), they’d be terrified of us.”

ICE’s wish would also have stretched an already understaffed department and cost a cash-strapped town more money, Carl said yesterday.

The original memo of understanding allowed Framingham Police to tap into a database to help investigate violent crimes.

Police spokesman Lt. Paul Shastany acknowledges the department has been caught in the middle of a debate on immigration enforcement. Some say the police are doing too much, others charge they’re not doing enough.

That division was reflected in the community as the news of Framingham dropping out of the federal program broke late yesterday.

Vera Dias Freitas, a local leader in the Brazilian community, said it is “wise that Framingham is pulling out of the program.”

“The reality is the existence of immigrants is everywhere,” she said. 3n93kb3md1fb1g2147913e6cdca422458160f3n93me3o2ZZZZZZZZZ979757ce3c8ee351a1d“What needs to be done is immigration reform where people are able to find a pathway to citizenship. No one wants to be living in the shadows. We should be looking for ways to support such reform.”

Town Meeting member Dan Gittelsohn is on the opposite side.

He thought the federal government should allow every town and city to investigate and deport “any illegal alien in this country.” He thought that would better protect “every legal citizen of this country.”

Gittelsohn said he is outraged existing immigration laws are not enforced more stringently.

The program was better than nothing, he said, adding, “In defense of the Framingham Police Department, financially, I understand why they’re having a hard time with this.”

Framingham entered into the program, known as 297(g), in August 2007 because of crimes that were going unreported, said Shastany.

“Oftentimes people within the Brazilian community would know of a person who was using an alias and they would be reluctant to talk to us,” said Shastany.

The original agreement allowed police to tap into databases that can shed light on violent felons, human or drug smugglers, gang members or immigration fugitives. Some such criminals use aliases, so their names do not show up in the state or FBI databases typically used by local authorities.

Shastany cited two high-profile crimes – a death stemming from a botched black market liposuction in 2006 and a fatal domestic assault that same year – where Brazilians in the community did not go straight to the police to report a crime, despite the fact that Brazilians were victims.

“This was a way for us to use the information that we would not get during an investigation,” said Shastany. “Otherwise, we had no means to find out who people are.”

The intent of the program was to help solve “crimes involving gangs, guns, violent drug-related crimes, violent domestic assault and batteries, things like that.”

The original agreement did not call for officers to conduct random street operations, investigate day laborers or question the immigration status of anyone.

Police have stopped using computers they obtained from the federal government as part of the program. ICE needs to pick them up.

Even if the department wanted to undertake an expanded role in local immigration enforcement, it does not have the resources to do so.

Carl said it would “crush us, financially.’

Framingham Police do not have the manpower for things like seeking a deportation warrant and going to federal court to testify, said Shastany.

The agreement, in which the federal government authorized two officers to act as immigration officials, unsettled local immigrants.

Shastany said police didn’t use the program “as often as people think.”

Under 287(g), police arrested three immigrants connected to a spate of robberies within the first year of its implementation.

All three had connections to street gangs and were deported to Brazil.

Shastany stressed the department will continue to cooperate with ICE whenever possible. “We’re just not immigration officers,” he said.

The Barnstable County sheriff’s office was also pulling out of the program, according to the Associated Press.

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(Dan McDonald can be reached at 508-626-4416 or dmcdonal@cnc.com.)

FRAMINGHAM —

A local ILLEGAL ALIEN HISPANICman told his girlfriend she was “going to die,” as he choked and beat her for about two hours yesterday in a van he stole from the woman’s husband, a prosecutor said in court.

Luis Cervantes, 32, was arrested at 7:31 a.m. after his girlfriend escaped from the van on Edgell Road and ran bare-footed down the street covered in blood and looking for help, prosecutor Felicia Scroggins said in Framingham District Court.

The woman did not appear in court because she was still being treated for her injuries, the prosecutor said.

The woman, who was not named in court, told police that Cervantes picked her up in her husband’s van early Friday morning at a party.

He was upset because she had been drinking and punched her in the face, Scroggins said.

They pulled up to Cervantes’ 258 Edgell Road home, and the woman tried to get out of the van.

“He stopped her and said, ‘Try to get out of this vehicle and I will kill you,’ ” said Scroggins. “For the next one and a half hours he punched her and yelled at her that he was going to kill her.”

At one point, Cervantes began choking the woman, who said she almost blacked out. “While being strangled by this defendant, he told her she was going to die,” said Scroggins. “This ordeal lasted two hours and she said she couldn’t even count the number of times she was punched in the face.”

After two hours, the woman said she scratched Cervantes a couple of times and she jumped out of the van without her shoes and ran for help.

“A man called police and said he saw a woman who was covered in blood, running up the street trying to flag cars down,” said Scroggins. “She had blood and several bruises all over her face and arms. The front of her shirt was covered with blood.”

Police later stopped the van Cervantes was driving and found the woman’s shoes in it. They also discovered that Cervantes had stolen the van from the woman’s husband.

Cervantes was charged with attempted murder, kidnapping by confinement, assault and battery, threatening to commit murder and intimidating a witness.

Scroggins asked Judge Paul Healy Jr. to hold Cervantes without bail pending a hearing to determine if he is a danger to the public.

Cervantes’ lawyer, Bridgett Bradley, did not argue for bail, and Healy ordered Cervantes held at least until Thursday’s hearing.

(Norman Miller can be reached at 508-626-3823 or nmiller@cnc.com.)

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parentalconsent
39 minutes ago

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no…… we don’t need no ice involvement
parentalconsent
27 minutes ago

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anyone notice how the human waste is seeping over to the north side of framingham,,? it won’t be long before there isn’t a safe place in this town.

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parentalconsent

1 day ago

i have a crime to report….there are too many illegals living in framingham

this is a real slap in the face to us who have been paying their salaries for so long and when we require their protection they refuse to give. nice going steve.

MDG80
1 day ago

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‘Vera Dias Freitas, a local leader in the Brazilian community, said it is ‘wise that Framingham is pulling out of the program.”

I care what this person thinks, why? The ‘Brazilian’ community should start dictating how our police departments operate, why? I find it funny that her next quote speaks about the ‘pathway to citizenship’ and she is a leader of the ‘Brazilian’ community. I just worry what comes next.

omglykenoway
1 day ago

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as a brazilian immigrant that came here the CORRECT way and has papers.

This is bitter sweet….

While i do believe that immigration reform is definetely in need. Lets at least get these people registered so we can keep track of them. Ignoring a problem isnt going to solve it.

I DO want them to deport people who commit serious crimes (excuse the fact that they are illegal in the first place….just this once) basically, if you arent here to live by the rules, then dont live here….its really that simple at this point. Im sick of trying to defend the brazilian community when there are morons out there commiting STUPID crimes..

omglykenoway
1 day ago

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MGD80, you should care what that person has to say….ignorance is not bliss my friend.

if you dont care what she has to say, why do you care about what ANYONE has to say? thats what causes crime, why should i care about the laws?

slipery slope i know blah blah blah, red herring

Brittanicus
1 day ago

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We are on the verge of a major breakthrough with the illegal immigration deterrent program E-Verify. Washington has extended E-Verify to the end of October, but that is not enough for the 10 million plus jobless American workers. The stamp of approval of E-Verify has been recognized by the hundreds of thousands, or perchance millions of citizens and legal employees whose innumerable numbers have been disenfranchised by illegal alien labor. An apparel firm was raided by ICE and 1800 workers who are illegal have been fired, unless they can be positively accepted as having the right legal status? Unbelievable! Now without further adieu, we must lambaste the politicians until they make E-Verify permanent? It should be placed on the peak list of interior enforcement tools, and everybody who gets a pay check should be verified as part of the legal workforce.

A huge number of suspected open border players, thought the courts would kill it as unconstitutional, or at least delay it? An amendment was presented by Sen. David Vitter that prevents any further delays in the implementation of the Social Security Administrations No-Match-letter program. An amendment was also offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions that requires a permanent re-authorization of the application. The usual culprits tried to table the Sen. Sessions E-Verify amendment, but the motion failed and eventually passed. We have dubious decision makers in DC, who are not looking-out for the man/women in the street? This became very blatantly obvious in the stimulus bill, when no language omitted illegal workers from gaining at least 300.000 jobs in construction and other industries. The 247 G law is another successful police program, to identify illegal immigrants on the streets of our communities and highways. This law could be on the chopping block, as well as the ICE raids on pariah businesses. With modifications E-verify could detect illegal aliens applying for drivers licenses, car insurance, home mortgages, health care and much more? LET THE BLOODY EMPLOYERS WHO HAVE INSTIGATED THIS IMMIGRATION MESS–PAY FOR IT

Both California and Nevada’s lawmakers have a high percentage of illegal alien populace, so they are indebted not to enforce immigration laws. We as voters must transfer our frustration and anger to those who represent us at 202-224-3121. A continuous barrage of irate voters has upset the politicians applecart in their offices, demanding change? You will only discover the true patriotic American politicians by going to and examining their immigration grades at NUMBERSUSA, JUDICIAL WATCH & for OVERPOPULATION statistics CAPSWEB. If we hesitate about these issues, all is lost, and the anti-sovereignty groups will take away our jobs, freedoms. If you really want to view the absolute appalling state our roads, bridges, dams and drinking water structure, watch ‘The Crumbling of America.’ The History channel has been illuminating the complete and utter indifference, while we financially support the world, wars and illegal immigrants for the business community.

MDG80
1 day ago

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omglykenoway,

Ok forgive me. I don’t even know Ms. Freitas. She could be a wonderful person and one hell of a model American. I guess my point is why should the Framingham PD or any other American police department be concerned about how illegal immigrants or advocates of illegal immigrants would perceive a directive to reduce a crime.

parentalconsent
1 day ago

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just put up a sign that says ‘illegals welcome to framingham’ let them take our jobs our free education and pay no taxes.
mia
1 day ago

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Let’s just let them keep doing what they were doing in Brookline and Boston- raping women. And we’ll continue to pay for their legal defense when they get caught. Hey, Chief Carl, are you at all concerned with the CITIZENS who are victims of crimes that ILLEGALS commit? After all, it’s those CITIZENS that fund your department. I’m so glad I moved out of that 3rd world country that Framingham is turning into.
commenter
1 day ago

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Why are we not penalizing employers and landlords who allow illegal aliens to live in their houses/apartments and / or work for them? How do ou report their salaries to the local, state and federal governmentts? How do you document their rents paid? Why does the RMV give them licenses and registrations? I think the local ppolice should have the power totake action against these illegal immigrants and the people who assist them. I have no bias against anyone who abides by the law, but if they (anyone) are here illegally, aren’t they (any person) committing a crime?
jjrizo
1 day ago

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This is hard to believe!

The police being in this program was somewhat a deterrent of the influx of illegals who come to Framingham.

Now it’s open season again, and the illegals are going to come even more knowing they will get away with even more.

Mark my words this is going to come back to haunt the town.

So what do we do now with the 3 three police officers that were hired by the town to be part of the program?
Do we still hold on to them?

JR

BillyT
1 day ago

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Can Framingham’s citizens remove its Chief? If there is a petition to sign please send it to every house north of route 30, you’ll get thousands of signatures
WillyLaB
1 day ago

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It is not illegal to rent to those here illegally, however it is illegal to employ those who are here illegally. I agree that the law MUST go after those who continue to give sanctuary to those here illegally by ILLEGALLY EMPLOYING THEM.

Either that, get the laws regarding border-crossing, visas, and employment of non-citizens of the USA
REPEALED!!!!!!!!!

William LaBarge

Bcannyon
1 day ago

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The FPD, sworn to uphold the law, is declining to do so because they are concerned doing so might upset the illegal immigrants, their rels, friends and country men.

Unfathomable. Would cops in Brasil, Mexico or Germany even entertain doing that..??

Bcannyon
1 day ago

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Framingham moonbats in power, influencing the FPD and the FPD itself are carrying the torch of illegal immigration rather than upholding the law.

Like Obama they are surrendering..

BadSull
1 day ago

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Carl has to go!! What an idiot!!
parentalconsent
1 day ago

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the chief needs to get out of the kitchen if he can’t stand the heat. it seems he cares more about the immigrant population then the ones paying the majority of his salary. maybe he should step down. or be removed as he is not doing his job. the squeaky gate is getting oiled here and the rest of us are getting the shaft. i think he needs to hear from the rest of us.
Lido
24 hours ago

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I have a CRIME to report. The illegal Brazillian that works in the same restaurant that I worked in gets free medical care. She goes to the chiropoactor and tells me that it’s free. I haven’t been able to afford a doctor visit for YEARS. I’m PO’d . This crap has revolution written all over it. Grannies get your gunzzzzzz.
01760DINC
23 hours ago

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Sucks to be you guys. The people have spoken – as they have for years. The police department is doing exactly what the town government and the majority of the population desires.

Don’t think so? Go ahead and change it.

cros01752
23 hours ago

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Wow, a program designed to get the illegals the hell out of our country dropped by my former home town police department. What is next for Framingham? I said this before I was shocked to see how much Framingham is turning into a ghetto town. ICE is a great program and works well in rounding up illegals and shipping them back. Chief Carl you need to rethink your actions in dropping this program and take back your town while there is still some hope in making Framingham a proud town again. If I had to move back to Massachusetts I know that Framingham would not be on my list of towns to move to. Gangs and Illegal run the town not the law abiding people who live there and from what it seems from friend who still live ther the police don’t care and by dropping ICE I am sorry to say that I am in agreement.
WillyLaB
23 hours ago

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A couple things that gets me p____d off over the issues of illegal immigration are two folds.
1) We have the anti-illegal immigration movement having a strong tinge of racism and hatred
2) We have the pro-undocumented immigrants not speaking up to call for the current Federal immigration laws repealed.

The 2nd group of folks here claiming to be friends of those here illegally, but don’t come on public record calling for the outright repeal for by not speaking out, it creates and maintain the environment where
A) the business community can exploit those here illegally for dirt cheap labor
B) those here illegally become targets of outright hatred and target of crimes.
IF THOSE WHO CLAIMS TO BE FRIENDS OF THOSE HERE ILLEGALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO REPEAL OF THE LAWS THAT REGULATE BORDER-CROSSING, VISAS, AND EMPLOYMENT OF NON-CITIZENS OF THE USA… WHY THE SILENCE ON CALLING FOR REPEALS OF SUCH LAWS.
After all, these laws are on the books, STUPID! LET GETS SOME HONEST DEBATES ON THE LAWS ITSELF. IF YOU DON’T WANT SUCH LAWS TO BE REPEALED, THEN YOU MUST ACCEPT THE NOTION THAT NOT ONLY IS IT FAIR GAME TO ENFORCE SUCH LAWS, IT IS THE DUTY FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OF THE GOVERNMENT TO ENFORCE THE GOD DAMNED LAWS.

William LaBarge

Mark
21 hours ago

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Chief Steven Carl is unpatriotic and cares nothing about the folks who have raised their babies in this town!
Mark
21 hours ago

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Carl needs to go!!

The people have spoken!

Dude 1
19 hours ago

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I can see why all the illegal immigrants come to Framingham.
The Mill
19 hours ago

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So if we all go out drunk driving every night and the police become overwhelmed with the caseload, will they give up and just let everyone drink and drive? This is the Framingham PD quitting on what they are hired to do because it is just so hard.
bupin1
18 hours ago

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My Lord, We don’t want to enforce a law so that the law breakers will report crimes????? Are you serious Framingham? Bet you local people are loving your law enforcment today. Have no fear, atleast the illegals have no fear of the police anymore! HAHAHAHAHA Only in Massachusetts would something like this happen. 2010 is right around the corner, time to clean house! (and Senate) who’s with me!
MrPelly
18 hours ago

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parentalconsent: ”just put up a sign that says ‘illegals welcome to framingham’ let them take our jobs our free education and pay no taxes.”

parental consent, our fealess leaders in Framingham already DID that. It’s called the ”Welcoming Proclamation’ which encourages illegal aliens to infest Framingham. NOTE: Charles J. Sisitsky is the only remaining selectman in office that signed it.

see it here: http://www.abetterframingham.org/proclamation.html

There are HEROs on the FPD, like Officer Phil Hurton… and than there’s Chief Steven Carl…who says the FPD doesn’t want to ”alienate” illegal crimaliens.

observer
18 hours ago

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Incredible. So the Framingham PD is abandoning the database that may show that an immigrant is here ILLEGALLY and may have committed a crime in another Amercan location before coming to Framingham?? Unreal. ‘Protect and Serve’? Yeah…’Protect and Serve’ LAWBREAKERS who don’t belong here in the first place. Why don’t they just call Framingham a ‘sanctuary’ town and get it overwith? I wonder how the Framingham PD will defend itself if and when a VIOLENT crime is committed against a LAWABIDING citizen by an ILLEGAL who was in that ICE database?
MrPelly
18 hours ago

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BTW 01760DINC6, You are 100% correct when you say, ”Sucks to be you guys. The people have spoken – as they have for years.”

Same goes for the people electing Rep. Pam Richardson to represent illegal aliens.

Creader
18 hours ago

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Why the FPD even gives this paper information, when they are beat up and insulted in this forum, is beyond me.

I’m sure there are two sides to this – seems to me ICE wants the FPD to do THEIR job, without giving them resources, thus draining resources meant for ALL residents of Framingham, not just illegals.

rp4336
18 hours ago

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Perfect, let them all go to framingham, keeps my town safer:)
alcffd
18 hours ago

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Everyone needs to understand Chief Carls priorities;
1. keep paid details in town.
2. oppose civilian flaggers.
3. keep the Quinn bill (that extra money cops earn on top of their regular salaries for attending college).
4. keep illegals happy.
5. keep the Selectmen happy.
6. keep the guys happy and awake during their regular shifts.
7. community policing.

 

coachguy7
17 hours ago

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FRAMINGHAM IS THE LAUGHING STOCK OF MASS. EVERYONE KNOWS IT’S A CESSPOOL OF ILLEGALS. FOR GOD SAKES THE ONE LOCAL RADIO STATION THAT IS LEFT IS BRAZILIAN. THE TOWN OF FRAMINGHAM OFFICIALLY JUST THREW THEIR HANDS UP AND SAID WE CANT DEAL WITH THIS ANYMORE.

NICE GOING CHIEF

MrPelly
17 hours ago

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Lt. Paul Shastany claims, ”Framingham Police do not have the manpower for things like seeking a deportation warrant and going to federal court to testify.’

But if FPD doesn’t have manpower for an ”expanded immigration enforcement role” required by ICE,
then how will FPD have manpower for an ”increased illegal alien crime wave” caused by a CONTRACTED enforcement role???

observer
17 hours ago

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Heres a suggestion for Framingham residents…next time the FPD holds a fundraising event or solicits donations tell hem to get their donations from the ILLEGALS in town.
fiaj
17 hours ago

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enforce the laws framingham,,,,, turned down help ,we have a problem here thats why they offered framingham ,Shastany stressed the department will continue to cooperate with ICE whenever possible. ‘We’re just not immigration officers,’ he said not doing your job if you dont arrest illegals chief great job
Hector
17 hours ago

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There’s a Police Dept in Framingham? In our neighborhood north of the Pike I haven’t seen a patrol car in years.
MBenson
17 hours ago

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Laws are constantly made in this state, but never enforced.
jade auburn
17 hours ago

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I think we’re missing part of the issue. They had an agreement and ICE decided that instead of doing their job themselves they would have the FPD do it for them. Working with the police is one thing. Having the police do your job for you because you don’t have enough employees is something else. Their main focus is to keep the streets safe. I think that the FPD did a better job than ICE and ICE just figured why not sit back and let FPD do the job since they do it so well. ICE is known for their once in a while stings so that people think they are working. I think it’s too bad that this happened but I completely 100% blame ICE . An agreement should not be taken lightly. If there is a crime and a witness doesn’t have a green card they will not talk to the police and that’s that. That does not keep the streets safe it makes it worse. I believe the FPD are doing the responsible thing by not taking over ICE’s job responsibilities.
D-INCARNATION
17 hours ago

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God forbid we ailenate the illegal aliens…….
MrPelly
17 hours ago

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I think its time to move out of Framingham I think the town has reached its tipping point.

I just put a sign on my front lawn that reads ”Casa ‘A Venda” (translation: ”House For Sale”).
Hopefully, some illegal alien will want to buy it to convert into an illegal rooming house. Who else would want to buy in Framingham these days?!

P.S. Im taking a hiatus from reading the MWDN and posting on these message boards for a while. There’s simply too much depressing news about Framingham lately. Try not to miss me!

Hector
16 hours ago

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This decision was easy for Chief Carl to make. It has no effect on him where he lives in Hopkinton.
He can’t see the illegals from his house. No effect on his property taxes, or schools, or crime, or property value.
motherland
16 hours ago

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not happy about this either but i need to look at this from the other side if FPD starts doing the job of ICE then when someone has a crime worth responding to like oooooo Framinghams drugs breakin’s and assaults as well as attempted murders then there will be no one there to respond because they will be to busy deporting southside. Now, if someone doesnt like this call up Duval and have him increase the budget for public safty so they can hire more cops, as is all police dept.s across the state are short staffed, even the state police is short staffed 400+ troopers needed but not getting hired… ya thats bad!!!
jjrizo
16 hours ago

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So we have to be afraid of the illegals?
Illlegals commit crimes on Americans and themselves.
What we need is more enforcement not less.

The message that is being sent here is the police have given up the battle and now we are losing the war.
Crime is going to get worse and the citizens are now in fear even more.
Ttime to arm yourselves!

JR

DLK
16 hours ago

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Who made the decision for the FPD ‘divorce’ from the Federal Immigration Program? Shouldn’t the people decided? What town wants illegals? Perhaps some illegals bribed the FPD to divorce themselves?? Very sad/dumb iresponsible decision- I feel bad for all homeowners now time to watch the home values drop, crime increase, drug use increase -oh maybe the police need more work?
glad I do not live in framingham the heydays are over
nava
16 hours ago

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The original agreement did not call for officers to conduct random street operations, INVESTEGATE DAY LABORERS, or question the immigration status of anyone.

This is my problem, we have many illegal aliens taking jobs, and making it impossible for contracts to bid on jobs, because they are not paying taxes, and will work for a low wage.

So, what is more important to the community to be policed? Illegal aliens taking the jobs of tax payers and citizens or arresting a kid for having a small amount if marijuana, and charging him for distribution just to bust his ballz.

TrueFaith
16 hours ago

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So the Framingham Police have no time and manpower to attend federal court cases concerning illegal aliens, BUT they have plenty of people to show up in court if a legal citizen trying to get to work is involved in a moving violation. They don’t want to get involved in tracking gang members, BUT they have plenty of time to set up speed traps to get a few bucks from legal citizens going about their daily business? And now they have even more time and manpower to round up legal citizens for minor infractions and testify against them in court, while the illegals can continue to break the law with impunity? Something is very, VERY wrong here.
stop_and_think
15 hours ago

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The intent of the program was to help solve ‘crimes involving gangs, guns, violent drug-related crimes, violent domestic assault and batteries, things like that.’

So instead of using this program, the framingham police have built the ‘Batman Spotlight’ in hopes of being a more cost effective program in reducing crime.

Obviously we dont need this program anymore since there is no crime left in town.

rain317
15 hours ago

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Maybe the town now needs the help of Arizona’s Maricopia County Sherriff Joe Arpaio.
Iamaccfile
15 hours ago

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The police chief should resign and all the other cowardly police personal that agree with him. These people have sworn to uphold the Constitution and now have cowardly let the wolves take over the hen house. Vera Dias Fretas talks about people being in the shadows, really? Seems to me the are making some really good headlines for murder and other criminal activities now.

These actions by the police chief warrant the town to have a town meeting to discuss the PEOPLES viewpoint on this and not the viewpoint of a cowardly police chief. Chief Carl should read Sheriff Joe Apaio’s book called Joe’s Law.
That is a real law enforcement officer, a real MAN who respects what this country stands for. Time for Pam Richardson and our Selectmen to get us all together to discuss this blunder and cowardice of our police chief and get some policemen on the force who really respect this country and what it stands for.

I think is’t also time for the people to raise up with signs and protest the police department for this act of treason. We have lost control of our town and have given it to the illegal immigrants who now will see this as an act of cowradice and do more crimes upon their own people and laugh at Framingham as a town full of cowards and bozo’s.

ALL Framingham residents and REAL AMERICANS, should be OUTRAGED by this action of the police chief.. Time to resign chief Carl as soon as possible, go move to Florida or better yet, Brazil.

Joe Rizoli
CCFIILE ( dot ) com

saturn
15 hours ago

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Wow Chief, cannot believe that you are throwing away this oportunity to work with ICE. Apparently you want to pacify your illegals and not your US CITIZENS. This is a real shame. No manpower!!! What are all these officers on details!! Something is really wrong here.
MBenson
15 hours ago

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Remember that movie ‘Escape From New York’ with Kurt Russell? That’ll be the ham in a couple years.
coachguy7
14 hours ago

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I lived in Framingham from 1960 to 1997. In 1997, my wife and I decided to move out of Framingham. Blight was beginning to appear. We were lucky. We made a killing on our house. It’s the BEST decision we ever made. The town of Framingham spends years and years talking about the tracks in downtown, overpass, underpass, while the entire downtown area rots away. I moved to Sudbury. I use to park at the commuter station downtown as I work in Boston. Now I drive a little longer and park in West Natick so I dont have to step over the drunks and homeless at 6:30 in the morning.

Framingham was a nice town when I was growing up. I have lots of good memories. No oversight, no management–a run away train. And now, a police chief who just doesnt give a F*k about illegals and has told the Feds to take a hike. Nice……………….

01701
14 hours ago

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I can see why they would do that. The less illegals live in Framingham the less crime there would be. The less crime means less police needed. Less police needed means unemployment, therefore they would rather keep the illegals and crime high in Framingham so that they can keep their jobs and make $100K+ (with detail work) on the taxpayers bill. Great plan…….
kanye
14 hours ago

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First: The metrowest daily news should not attempt to validate the illegal aliens presence in Framingham by quoting a Vera Dias Freitas as a ‘local leader in the Brazilian community.’ Ms. Freitas, if you are a leader, why don’t you advise your ‘faithful subjects’ prior to entering the United States of America to get a green card and a social security card/number, criminal check and health clearance check(hmmmm wonder where the swine flu comes from?) so they can payback into the system that they abuse by not being here legally. Your ‘subjects’ are here illegally. Shame on them and you if you are here illegally!! Illegal aliens use a majority of our tax paid state and county services and give back nothing in return. Without paying into the system you truly have no voice and no status to be heard amongst those people in our town and country that are here legally and who have fought for these rights and pay into these services. We as hard working Americans, invite all illegal aliens to go back to their home country and will welcome you back with loving arms as you come back into the US via the front door ‘legally’ as opposed to crawling and sneaking in to our town and country like burglars in the night.
Second: The reason why Framingham has so many illegal immigrant and crime problems is not because of or the fault of FPD. The FPD does a terrific job policing in our town and it is not their fault that our federal government has let the entire US down on this immigration issue.
Third: With all due respect to Chief Carl ,who does a great job in his leadership role as Chief of Police, he should move to and live in Framingham where he is the Chief of Police.
Fourth: A large part of the crime problem in Framingham is due to the apartment halfway houses in downtown Framingham and unfortunately, the Salvation Army charity. The charity is overburdened with non-locals that haunt the facility and at times some of them create crimes in town potentially in tandem with the resident tennants at the halfway house apartments and/or guests.
Fifth: Framingham is a terrific town to live in. We have an accredited state college, we have a strong historic district and society, we have a reknowned museum, we have malls , parks, gardens, green spaces and a Town Manager that has suppported our town and has made a strong positive difference.
jimmyb
13 hours ago

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Steve Carl, you are an absolute disgrace to the uniform!!! You need to do the LEGAL RESIDENTS of the community a huge favor and step down. When you took the oath of Chief, did it contain a passage that read something like ‘to protect and serve the public’? The public, is the people on the books, not those sneaking around illegally!!! So much for standing by your oath. It looks like you could care less about the legal tax paying residents of the community, and are hell bent on protecting the rights of illegal immigrants. By publicly pulling out of the 287G program you have sent a message loud and clear that Framingham is and will continue to be a safe haven for individuals that have broken Federal Laws? I would love to see you hauled in to your own jail and brought up on charges of ‘aiding and abetting Federal Criminals’

As a life long resident of Metro West, I am absolutely disgusted with your performance as Chief. You and you alone could have made a positive impact towards the safety and quality of live in the area. But instead, you have condemned the tax paying, law abiding public to have to deal with the hoard of lawless criminals that have invaded our community.

What’s next on your illegal hugging crusade.hang a Brazilian flag outside the station, above the American flag so it can show everyone what your priorities are?

If they are here illegally, they should be thrown out, no if, and’s, or but’s!!!

Paulo Santos
13 hours ago

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We do have two options;
to enforce the second amendment ( for us, citizens…does not apply to the illegal scumbags)
to bring Joe Arpaio from Maricopa…

I would love to see those borderjumpers running back to brazil.

MH
13 hours ago

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Very sensible move. 287g is a boondoggle, a real detriment to enforcement of local law & order. Good riddance. If a large percentage of the population is scared of reporting crimes to the police, then crime will flourish.

There is no group of people in the world — ethnic, religious, occupational, whatever — that’s moron-free. As omglykenoway says, there are some objectionable people in the immigrant community. Guess what? Same’s true for those of us who were born here, and they’re hanging out warts and all on this comment line.

W. LaBarge is right, the anti-immigrant movement is, I’d say more than ‘tinged’ with racism and hatred. (Yes, Rizolis, your ears are burning …) And I want to assure him that some of us are trying really hard to get the laws put on a more rational basis. I don’t favor fully-open borders any more than I favor absence of police. But I’m sure that if good, hardworking people who’d exhausted all their alternatives at home and really wanted to come to the US had a snowball’s chance of doing so legally, they’d jump at it. Right now they don’t, and that’s part of why so many folks come outside the law.

I also want to say that I get more than a little sick and tired of the ‘citizens vs. illegals’ dichotomy. ‘Illegal’ as a noun is a term of abuse, and in my opinion does not belong on the web site of a respectable paper.
You also need to deal with the fact that people can be legally present in the US on something between 20 and 30 different kinds of visas, or as Legal Permanent Residents. There is no way to arrive here and become an instant citizen. You have to spend a minimum of 3-5 years as an LPR.

I live — as do most people in the immigrant community — in a mixed-status household. There are three of us, all legally present, all related. Each one of us has a different status; if we invite some of my in-laws to dinner we can easily add 2 or 3 more. This means that we have, and have to carry, different documents, have different access to medical care, different conditions for travel outside the US. The immigration system complicates our lives enormously. And we have it easy compared to the folks without documents.

Treating this situation with capslock diatribes, or with Brittanicus-type boilerplate (B, when are you going to read an article before you hit the dratted ‘paste’ key??? Do you think you’re excused because you’re in Indiana?) really doesn’t help anyone.

Restore Fairness
13 hours ago

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It makes both economic sense and is better for the community when local police and jails stay separated from federal immigration. We will all be less safe when people from our communities, including crime victims or victims of domestic violence, are afraid to cooperate with police, because of immigration consequences. And weighing down the police with administrative checks and paperwork distracts from their real jobs. The job of immigration law should be left to federal immigration agents whose job it is. We need immigration reform that restores fairness and due process to our broken immigration system.
To see some real life examples, watch a short video at http://www.restorefairness.org.
utkinpol
12 hours ago

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Liberal attitude promoting illegal immigration backfired in entire country – yet still local politicians and police keep pretending like it is OK to get criminals from latin america`s slums coming here and live among us.

I am an immigrant who came here on H1B visa, worked my *** of for my citizenship and I would first among those who would swipe Framingham clean, board all illegals on a ship and sail them wherever they came from. It is a survival issue now – they come here and apply for jobs they ready to do for a fraction of price employers would have to pay to legal citizens. There are no enough jobs for everybody here anymore, those times are long gone.

There in Mexico they know how to deal with all those who come to them to compete with them. But here thanks to late mr. Kennedy entire issue got turned over 180 degrees. As a result good neighborhoods become slums and all normal people have to flee from them.

misha88
12 hours ago

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We should thank Chief Steven Carl for protecting us, and appreciate the Framingham police officers who have been stabbed and shot at, by the real criminals in our Town. Instead of hating immigrants (who have always come to America to escape oppression and poverty in their countries of birth), let us appreciate the police for putting themselves in the line of fire to protect us. I dont see the bloggers that hate immigrants hating the real violent criminals, who are legal citizens, who injure and try to kill the police who are working every day to protect us. Chief Carl is a professional who has risen through the ranks. I hope he continues to pay attention to the need to protect the community from violent criminals, and not pay attention to the anonymous bloggers who have never had to put on a police uniform and go out everyday and put themselves in the line of fire. Somebody said to me there is no cure for ignorance and I understand why when I read all the blogs in the news paper.
utkinpol
12 hours ago

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And it is damn simple to stop all illegal immigration. No free schools for their kids, no free medical attention in hospitals, no credit cards, no bank accounts, if they cannot show US passport – call on ‘la migra’ and get them into jail and out of here!

Illegals thrive only in areas where they can feed from a giving hand, hand that takes away from me and my children and gives to them. It is just moronic to keep things going like this. Feds can enforce set of rules to stop all that non-sense overnight, just as they can bite my *** immediately if I decide to cheat on my taxes. It is ridiculous to assume that they have no merits to check on every dime that goes via official payroll, my wife works in accounting so she knows perfectly how it works and how local companies use other companies that supply them with ‘contractors’. It is all pitiful and exists just because rich of this country benefit from this cheap labor source and simply do not want to cut it off.

jimcity621
12 hours ago

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Cheif Lawbreaker Carl. You have chosen law enforcement as a career. How ironic. You are the worst lawbreaker in town. All the unlicensed driving, breakins, robbery, ID fraud, and violence are ALL ON YOU. Next time you take a walk in the station, and see the jails. Remeber! You belong behind those iron bars!
dcmom64
11 hours ago

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Framingham should keep the program – Illegals take our jobs, spaces in our school (two teachers in that class, compared to one teacher for many others), driving with no reg or license. Illegals should not be able to come to Framingham take our money, (then when they make enough, take it all back to their homeland) and use all our town resources and not pay any taxes. Come on Chief Carl – Stop walking around with blinders on. Open your eyes to an ongoing problem……………………….here in Framingham..
classof49
11 hours ago

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There is one step Framingham can take that can help relieve some of the issues cited by many of the above bloggers. Town Meeting is the sole funding authority in Framingham, and this legislative body is the only arm of the local government to authorize spending. Unfortunately, the state culture permits people who are employed by the schools and municipal administration to vote on their own salaries and generous benefits. This conflict of interest could provide a friendly environment for deals, which could or does permit the old-boy custom of ‘screw you, hooray for me’

Nevertheless, if Town Meeting takes its duties and responsibilities seriously, it can refuse to fund those departments that ignore the will and/or outrage of taxpayer residents. It can act on public safety since it has a standing committee which provides oversight and make recommendations to Town Meeting. And while there is a national review of immigration underway, or supposedly underway, Framingham can set priorities in public safety and work with ICE to deport the criminal elements in Framingham that abuses and preys on all residents.

jade auburn
11 hours ago

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FPD was one of the first police departments to accept the ICE program. This tells me that they are willing to attempt to resolve the illegal alien issue in Framingham. The problem is that they should be able to expect ICE to step in and do their job as well. Miford has a high number of illegals as well. They do not partake in this program as far as I know. Obviously this didn’t work. Has anyone tried blaming ICE and not the FPD who fairly and unduly agreed to be one of the first departments in this state to work with this program? I think that the blame should be accurately placed on ICE. ICE should be rounding up the illegals and taking them on a free ride home. The illegals should not be showing up at the police station asking for a ride home because they are afraid the winter will be too cold and they might freeze to death. ICE needs to set up shop in Framingham and get this under control. They should be able to request police assistance if and when necessary but the police are not there to do the job for them and that’s my opinion.
parentalconsent
10 hours ago

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chief carl is just another millionaire cop. he used to live in this town but i guess he saw the writing on the wall and got the hell out. as far as the police protecting me and my family that is crap. i have to accompany my wife when she goes to certain places for her safety. i continue to have my business hurt by illegals and who is protecting me from them….no one. things will get out of hand soon and we only have steve carl to blame.
stop_and_think
10 hours ago

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‘I also want to say that I get more than a little sick and tired of the ‘citizens vs. illegals’ dichotomy. ‘Illegal’ as a noun is a term of abuse, and in my opinion does not belong on the web site of a respectable paper.’

Ummm, When they are not in the country legally, that would make them illegal. If you have a problem with them being called that, tell them to come here legally.

01701guy
10 hours ago

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If there are less criminals, the police don’t have jobs. They are protecting themselves.

WE NEED A TOWN GOVERNMENT ACTION TO FORCE THE POLICE TO FILE CHARGES FOR ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. IT’S THAT SIMPLE.

fiaj
10 hours ago

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JADE, WE ALLOW THEM TO ROAM FREE FROM LAWS DO WHAT THEY WANT BUT NOW ITS ICE FAULT ??? FRIENDS ON THE FPD?? …LETS TAKE OUR TOWN BACK ..
WillyLaB
10 hours ago

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I guess we should not be paying attention to bloggers who don’t put on a police uniform and that would include not paying attention to the blogger who gives us this word of advice.

On the other hand, calling people various names is not civil as well.

There is hate on one side and hypocrisy on the other side.

It is no wonder why we have this controversy turning Framingham into a cauldron with plenty of bad chemistry happening.

I say that it’s time to either REPEAL THE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS or ENFORCE IT STARTING WITH CRACKING DOWN ON EMPLOYERS WHO GIVE THE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS SANCTUARY BY ILLEGALLY EMPLOYING THEM.

 

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  1. Brittancus says:

    With unemployment at a 26 year high, the New York Times has revealed that immigration authorities at the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services have undertaken preparations for issuing visas to 11-18 millions (?) My guess over 20 million + illegal aliens who would be granted–BLANKET AMNESTY–if Congress is–able–to pass immigration reform legislation. Now is the time to remind your Senators and Representatives at 202-224-3121, that we demand they do NOT enroll on to this ill conceived abomination. Into our country at least a million law abiding newcomers come annually, clutching their entry visas; many waiting for years for a chance at the American dream. But the thrall of lobotomized Democrats are in for a hard lesson, including some Republican business enthusiasts, who think it’s–going to be a simple solution approving this financial calamity.

    This illegal alien mess has been methodically created by both parties for decades. But monumental amounts of the US population do not agree with this outcome. LaRaza, a radical anti-Sovereignty organization, will transform the US into a third world dumping ground yet? Incidentally regarding the 2010 Census? Small states will miss out big time on federal dollars, while mass illegal immigrant states will gain more seats in Congress and too much power and influence? Of course ICE could check the immigration status of those who are counted, even though it’s supposedly against US law? Or is counting non-legal residence against the US Constitution?

    All we need is mandatory E-Verify to remove from every honest business, workers who came here illegally; those who don’t will suffer severe penalties. This is a murky back-door way for hard-line Liberal Democrats to sneak past all verification measures, which would approve a path to citizenship for lawbreakers thus giving them access to–YOUR–health care? All Americans GOOGLE–NUMBERSUSA, to uncover the deceitful way they plan to cheat all legal workers and citizens? America is already on the road to irreversible OVERPOPULATION. Do all the people out their who are suffering from a compassion syndrome, believe–ALL–Americans want to pay even higher taxes to support corporate welfare, for the millions they have already hired? I don’t think so?

    This is one of the cloaked agendas of The Council of Foreign Relations to intensify the unfettered inflow of destitute peoples into North America. We already spend more money across the globe, than anyone else? Yet the United Nations is never satisfied. We already have a negative-dollar free trade treaty, which has seen the disappearance of our manufacturing industries. To me Globalism and internationalism are dirty words, and when Americans open their eyes it might be too late? Our country is being emasculated by the illegal immigration and the financial support poured out by unaware taxpayers. America is like the Greek god “Atlas” supporting the world and its issues? That is exactly what we are doing–SUPPORTING THE WORLD? For the record 15 Democrats are already discussing your fate, as they strife to undermine immigration enforcement amendments:

    1. To permanently reauthorize E-Verify? 2. To complete the 700 miles of border fencing? 3. To continue and not rescind the No-match-letter program, that HS Napolitano has closed down. 4. Grassley’s amendment to allow all businesses that use E-Verify to run all of their current employees through the E-Verify system. Go see who the traitors are to our protection of the border at NUMBERSUSA. Napolitano who rules over the Homeland Security agency has compromised the immigration enforcement agencies policies, by taking away 287 G apprehension law from uniformed police across the land. She is supposedly placed in this security citadel to keep Americans safe, but her Democratic politics is taking control and therefore such powerful deterrents such as 287 (g), finishing the poorly constructed border fence, containing heavy duty ICE raids and just breaking down the already thin line that holds back criminal aliens, drug traffickers and the pollution of illegal law breakers who have no permission to enter America.

    Do you know what the state of our highways or underground utilities? Each state has 30 year underground causeways of irreparable water and sewage pipes that our government has ignored. Again I say watch “The Crumbling of America” on the History channel. Each year our bridges and dams are deteriorating, so they do hasty repairs, but many are seeing deployable erosion that cannot be fixed, because the state has not enough money? Yet the Democrats want to cause an avalanche of impoverished people, who will want to bring in even more family members. Who’s going to recompense for them? Then even more will break through the fence, enter as a tourist or slip into America via the Caribbean? The onslaught will never end and our reservoir of cash is finally exhausted.

    I have a hard time paying my taxes, without paying more for the impecunious, uneducated who slip into our sovereign country bring the criminals, the handicapped and elderly immigrants. Who pays for my family and kids, the house payment, health care and car? NOT THE BLOODY TRAITORS IN WASHINGTON ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE WHO KEEP PILING ON HIDDEN TAXES TO SUBSIDIZE ILLEGAL FOREIGNERS AND FAMILIES FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. I’LL EVEN GO FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE SKILLED JOBS AND SOMETHING TO OFFER, BUT NOT FOR JUST ANYBODY WHO TAXPAYERS HAVE TO SUPPORT? Learn more about corruption at JUDICIAL WATCH. Learn about POPULATION GROWTH at CAPSWEB.

  2. Jim Rizoli says:

    Framingham is a gonner!

    Jim Rizoli
    CCFIILE.COM

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